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Name: Nancy Mills
Email: dnmills@ns.sympatico.ca
Age: 31
Occupation: teacher
NumberOfCruises: 3
TravelAgent: No
Ship: Princess-Grand
SailingDate: March 12, 2000
Itinerary: Eastern Caribbean
Cabin: B525
FoodDiningRoom: 85
CruiseDirector: 95
CabinComfort: 95
FoodRoomService: 85
CruiseStaff: 95
CabinAmenities: 95
FoodLidoDeck: 80
DiningRoomService: 95
CabinQuietness: 95
FoodMidnightBuffets:
CabinSteward: 90
ShoreExcVariety: 95
FoodVariety: 90
DeckService: 90
ShoreExcValue: 90
GoodForHoneymoon:
CasinoStaff: 90
PrivateIsland: 100
GoodForFamilies:
LoungeService: 90
TenderService: 95
GoodForSeniors:
BeautySalonStaff: 50
EntertainmentLounges: 90
WheelchairAccess:
ExerciseFacilities:
EntertShowLounge: 95
OverallPortsofCall: 90
BeautySalon: 50
EntertainmentPoolside: 95
CruiseActivities: 90
Casino: 90
AirSeaProgram: 80
MedicalFacilities:
ShipCleanliness: 95
EmbarkDisembark: 100
DiscoNightclubs: 90
DeckSpace: 95
Stabilization: 85
ShopsOnBoard: 90
SpaceRatio: 95
OverallCruiseValue: 90
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Date: 24 Apr 2000
Time: 19:34:07
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My husband and I (early 30's) sailed on the Grand Princess on March 12, 2000. This was my third cruise and
my husband's second. Our previous cruises have been with Carnival. We had a wonderful vacation and would
definitely sail Princess again.
PRE-CRUISE DETAILS: Because we booked this cruise only 2 weeks before sailing I was a bit apprehensive
about whether our documents would arrive in time. No need to worry, we had our documents several days
before we set sail, with everything in order. The only disappointment was our flight schedule. Because we had
booked so late and during one of the busiest times of the year, we pretty much had to take whatever flights
were available. The airports were very busy, but fortunately we did not encounter any significant delays. I
always prefer to arrive the day before sailing as I like to board early and get the most out of the first day. We
didn't board until nearly 7:00 p.m. and I felt like I missed out on a whole day. Next time I'll plan more in
advance.
We were met at the airport in Fort Lauderdale by Princess reps and quickly whisked outside to a waiting
shuttle bus. Our luggage was transported directly to from the airport to the ship. I have only one word to
describe the entire embarkation process - smooth. Princess certainly gets tops marks in this area. The time it
took from when we landed at the airport until we were in our room was about 30 minutes. I was impressed.
CABIN: We had an inside cabin on Baja deck. I figured because we had booked so late that we'd probably end
up with something in the 'basement'of the ship, so I was pleasantly surprised. The cabin had plenty of room for
the two of us. Our beds had been pushed together and already made up as a queen. And, they don't make
them up separately with twin sheets (as Carnival does), they use queen sheets. There was lots of storage
space and hangers, a room safe that you lock by using a code (not a credit card), small refrigerator, terry
cloth robes (I didn't find them to be very comfortable), good reading lamps on each side of the bed that
dimmed. There was a retractable clothesline in the shower. There was also a useless small table in the room
at the foot of the bed that was constantly in the way. I don't know why they bothered with it. We left a note for
our room steward to take it away and when we returned it was gone. The room was generally clean but not
spotless. Our room steward always addressed us by name and was very pleasant. The first couple mornings
our room wasn't made up for several hours, so we simply put the 'Make up Room' sign on our door when we
went for breakfast and never had another problem. Part way through our cruise we received 2 bottles of wine
and 2 Princess tote bag/suitcases. Not sure what we did to earn these but they were much appreciated!
DINING ROOM: We had early seating in the Da Vinci dining room. We had requested a table for 8 or 10, but
ended up at a table for 4. This was quite a disappointment. We tried our best to carry on a conversation with
the other couple but they just didn't talk much. Next time we will make sure we are at a larger table. As it
turned out, we only ended up going to the dining room for dinner on 2 more evenings and the other couple
didn't show up on those nights. While it was nice to have a quiet table for 2 by the window, it would have been
nice to meet some other people. The service was very good, and the food was also very good. Items on the
menu that stood out were chilled yogurt soup, Beef Tenderloin, French Onion Soup (to die for), and the plates
of sweets the waiter brings to the table for dessert (definitely try these). One of the items that was less than
memorable was the pork entrée served on French night. The pork chops were okay, but the accompanying
veggies left much to be desired (the breaded potato molded into the shape of a pear was terrible and the
baked granny smith apple was very sour and impossible to cut). We ate lunch in the dining room once and
breakfast twice. One morning we had a great breakfast and the second morning it was so-so. The Eggs
Benedict was barely warm and the 'toast' was nothing more than warmed up bread. I asked for the toast to be
re-toasted and they gladly took it back. However, when it finally came back it was stone cold. I realize that this
is a large restaurant and they are serving lots of people, but I've had hot toast in large, busy restaurants
before. Overall, we were very pleased with the food and service in the restaurant. Breakfast and lunch were
both open seating at all times on our sailing. We had pizza once and it was terrible. Soggy and salty. I don't
understand what people are raving about here. The Horizon Court was a nice alternative to the dining room.
The french toast was really good. The Horizon Court was never terribly crowded and you could always find a
place to sit. We also ate dinner here one night and it was excellent. Try the crispy spring rolls.
ROOM SERVICE: We ordered Room Service twice. The food was very good, although our orders were
missing such items as ketchup and mustard (for burgers) and forks (for coleslaw). I don't know whether we
had to request these items or whether they were simply forgotten. Although the menu states the burgers are
grilled, they were clearly fried. It is also possible to order items that weren't on the menu. We ordered potato
chips and orange juice. All you have to do is ask. We called Room Service late one evening to request pool
towels, as our Room Steward had forgotten to leave them in our room when he made up our cabin that
evening. We thought we might like to go for a swim early in the morning and would need towels. It took over an
hour for them to arrive. Needless to say, we were in bed asleep by then.
ALTERNATIVE DINING: Excellent! Be sure you make your reservations early in the week. I had read some
mixed reviews of the Painted Desert, but I would say they've made some big improvements. This was no doubt
our best meal of the week. We started with nachos and salsa (the best I've ever had), for appetizers we had
Tortilla Soup and some sort of chicken roll-up (I can't remember the name of it), and for our entrees we had
Filet Mignon and Tequila Chicken. You can't go wrong with any of these items. The meal was outstanding. We
also ate at Sabatinis. We had a very good meal here also, with the Tiramisu stealing the show. It was certainly
worth the extra $3.50 per person.
ENTERTAINMENT: The entertainment on board the Grand was phenomenal. Don't miss: Alexander the
hypnotist, Duo Macaggi (they got married 2 weeks ago on the Grand), and the show Glamour. We also
enjoyed Marty Allen and his wife Kate Blackwell, Kathy and James Taylor (another husband and wife team),
and comedy magician Jeff Peterson. Peter Sasso (comedy juggler) started off slow but turned out to be one of
the funniest shows we have ever seen. Dave Heenen (comedian) was just okay, and the singer Stephen Lee
Garden just about put me to sleep. I didn't *dislike* him, he just didn't seem to be able to grab the audience's
attention. Sight lines in the Princess Theatre are great. We usually arrived 10 minutes before showtime and
could always find an excellent seat. We didn't win anything in the casino but had fun donating a few rolls of
quarters. It was smoky in here. We enjoyed having a pre-dinner drink in the Lobby Bar while listening to the
pianist or the String Quartet. The Skywalker Disco was really neat and some of the karaoke participants were
quite talented. This is also a great place to visit during the day. It was virtually deserted when we were there.
The Tropical Island Night Deck Party held Wednesday night was great fun. Don't miss the Mr. Grand Princess
competition.
SPA: I always treat myself to a spa treatment during a cruise, although I'm not sure I will again after my
experience on the Grand. I booked a 45 minute Spa Manicure. I had this same treatment last year on the
Paradise and have one word to describe it - wonderful. Not so on the Grand. The treatment lasted only 30
minutes. When the manicurist brought me the bill (for $40) I told her I thought I had only had a regular
manicure because it lasted only 30 minutes and the massage portion had lasted literally less than one minute
per hand. I asked for a reduction in the price. It was like talking to a brick wall. I was told by the manager that
the time differential might have been due to the fact that I didn't have much cuticle to trim or filing to do. Fine,
but wouldn't I still be entitled to a 45 minute service? The manicurist finally offered to book me in for a 5 minute
hand massage, adding that she never gets complaints about her services. That's when I left. Incidentally, the
gentleman ahead of me in line also had a complaint, about a $300 massage package he had purchased for
his wife. I'm not sure of the details, but he didn't get anywhere either. As I said, I have used Steiner services
before and have been pleased with the service provided. Their services are overpriced and do I expect to get
what I pay for. I feel that I paid for a 45 minute service and received a 30 minute service. If I were to use
Steiner in the future I would verify the length of the service in advance, although this experience left a bad
taste in my mouth and I'll think twice before I spend my money here.
POOLS: There were four pools on the Grand. They are filled with freshwater and I believe they are open 24
hours. The Lap Pool was located at the front of the ship and seemed fairly quiet. It was adults only, expect
from 12:00 to 3:00 in the afternoon. One drawback was that the basketball court was above this pool, so it was
impossible (for me anyway) to snooze by the pool. The Terrace Pool located at the back of the ship was my
favourite spot. It was relatively quiet and also adults only, although there were times when it was overrun by
kids. (My complaints to staff were ignored.) This pool also offered lots of shady areas. The Neptune Pool was
the busiest and most crowded. This is where the games were held and the band played. The Calypso Pool
had a retractable dome and was also quite busy. All the pools were deserted after about 6:00 p.m. Mini golf
was fun but we had a difficult time finding it.
PORTS OF CALL: In ST.THOMAS we had hoped to sign up for the Champagne Catamaran excursion, but
apparently it is very popular as it was sold out by the time we boarded Sunday evening. We were quite
disappointed. Instead we did the Views of St. Thomas tour ($29). We toured the island on an open-air bus.
Our first stop was the Tramway. Beautiful views! But, our stop here was much too short. By the time we got to
the top we had only 5 minutes to gulp down our complimentary rum punch, snap a photo or two, and head
back down. Considering that this tour was advertised to last 3 hours and it only lasted 2 hours, a longer stop
here was certainly possible and would have been much appreciated by everyone. Then it was on to
MountainTop, home of the Banana Daiquiri. Yum! At the end of the tour we had the option of being dropped
off in town (you would have to find your own way back to the ship) or at Havensight Mall by the ship.
In ST. MAARTEN we signed up for the Golden Eagle Out-Island Sail ($62). It was a blast! Due to very windy
weather we had to change our itinerary. Instead of sailing to Tintamar we sailed to an alternative beach. We
anchored offshore for an hour. Some people swam (snorkeling equipment was provided) but we chose to
remain onboard. Destruction from recent hurricanes was evident as we sailed along the coast (several
buildings boarded up). Drinks were complimentary and plentiful and snacks were provided. Once we headed
back to the ship things really started to heat up. Drinks flowed freely, people danced and partied, and those
sitting up front got soaked by the waves! There were places to sit down below if you wanted to remain dry. I
would highly recommend this excursion. It was one of the highlights of our trip.
PRINCESS CAYS was delightful! We arrived earlier than expected, at 8:45 a.m., not 10:00 as was printed in
the Princess Patter. You must tender in to Princess Cays, and you need to pick up your tender ticket in the
Explorers Lounge. The Princess Patter stated that tender tickets would be available after 9:15, so we arrived
'early' at 9:00 to ensure that we got on the first tender. The place was packed and we got tickets for the third
tender. I was a bit concerned as I had read that if you don't get the first tender you won't find a chair or
hammock. Not so. There were loads of chairs left by the time we arrived, but do make sure you are on one of
the first tenders. We easily found a couple of lounge chairs by the Davey Jones Locker, which was a fairly
quiet area. Other areas were very crowded. Here's a tip - when you get off the tender, everyone goes to the
left. If you walk towards the right there is a whole other area which is much smaller and quieter than the rest of
the beach. If I were to go back to Princess Cays I would definitely head to the right when I disembarked from
the tender. There is also a BBQ buffet here. We joined the very long line at the main buffet and were quickly
advised by a staff member that there was a much less crowded buffet area at the other end of the beach. He
was right! There was hardly anyone here. Buffet items included tossed salad, pasta salad, coleslaw, beans,
corn on the cob, fresh fruit, cookies, hot dogs, hamburgers, and chicken legs. The food was good. We rented
the deluxe snorkeling package ($25 pp), which we picked up at the Davey Jones Locker. We went snorkeling
right away and when we got out of the water at 10:45 a.m. there was a long line at the Davey Jones Locker to
pick up equipment. The snorkeling area was also getting crowded. The snorkeling was pretty good, although I
don't have a lot to compare it to. The water was warm and clear, however, there wasn't an overabundance of
fish. It was fun though. There were a few shops at Princess Cays, hair braiding, a band, and all kinds of
watersports available. Tip: Wear water shoes! The sand has tiny shells in it and can be rather uncomfortable
when walking in barefeet.
DISEMBARKATION: All non U.S. citizens must clear immigration before the ship can be cleared for
disembarkation. Being Canadians, we had to go to the Vista Lounge at 6:00 a.m. The line moved quickly and
it didn't take long. Disembarkation began on time at 8:00 and because we had an early flight we were in one of
the first groups to be called. By 8:40 we were at the gate for our flight. Once again, I was impressed by
Princess's organization and efficiency.
FINAL THOUGHTS: My husband and I are both rather sensitive to cigarette smoke and I was worried that our
room might smell of smoke, but it was very fresh. Fortunately there didn't seem to be many smokers onboard.
In fact, we were more bothered by perfume than by cigarette smoke. Having worked in a 'scent-sensitive'
environment for several years I think I have become more sensitive to the smell of perfume. I seldom find it
pleasant anymore. I found the layout of the ship quite confusing. Certain elevators could only take you to
certain floors, and I had a difficult time finding stairs where I thought stairs should be. I guess this is probably
due to the size of the ship, but may also be due in part to the design. The culinary demonstration by the chef
was neat. He prepared 3 dishes in about 30 minutes. It would have taken me 3 days! If you like to cook I think
you'd enjoy this. The library was well stocked - fiction, biographies, children's books, large print books. If you
have any questions, please email me.
Name: Alan Benson
Email: alan.benson@gte.net
Age: 47
Occupation: Pharmaceutical Sales
NumberOfCruises: 5
TravelAgent: No
Ship: Princess-Grand
SailingDate: 4/30/00
Itinerary: Eastern Caribbean
Cabin: E726
FoodDiningRoom: 92
CruiseDirector: 95
CabinComfort: 92
FoodRoomService: 92
CruiseStaff: 95
CabinAmenities: 95
FoodLidoDeck: 85
DiningRoomService: 100
CabinQuietness: 70
FoodMidnightBuffets: 85
CabinSteward: 90
ShoreExcVariety: 85
FoodVariety: 90
DeckService: 95
ShoreExcValue: 75
GoodForHoneymoon: 95
CasinoStaff: 90
PrivateIsland: 90
GoodForFamilies: 95
LoungeService: 95
TenderService: 95
GoodForSeniors: 95
BeautySalonStaff:
EntertainmentLounges: 98
WheelchairAccess: 90
ExerciseFacilities: 90
EntertShowLounge: 98
OverallPortsofCall: 90
BeautySalon:
EntertainmentPoolside: 80
CruiseActivities: 95
Casino: 95
AirSeaProgram:
MedicalFacilities: 95
ShipCleanliness: 95
EmbarkDisembark: 95
DiscoNightclubs: 95
DeckSpace: 98
Stabilization: 75
ShopsOnBoard: 80
SpaceRatio: 98
OverallCruiseValue: 93
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Date: 07 May 2000
Time: 17:38:30
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My wife and I decided to take our 5th wedding anniversary cruise on the beautiful Grand Princess.We were
not dissapointed-the Grand Princess is truly Grand.We had a few problems with our upgraded cabin which
was at the rear(aft)of the ship right above the Vista Lounge,so I was worried about more movement and the
noise coming from the lounge at night.I was right about both plus our cabin had lots of sqeaks and cracking
sounds.Add to that I am a light and difficult sleeper and you can guess I didn't get more than 3-4 hrs. of sleep
a night.Nevertheless,this was our finest cruise to date.It was our first Princess cruise(we've sailed on Carnival
& RCCL) we are already thinking of sailing on the Sea Princess next time.
Service was the best I have
experienced,especially in the lovely DaVinci dining room.The dining rooms on Princess are not as huge and
bright as other ships.Instead,they are dark and romantic and fairly small for such a huge ship.Thanks to our
waiter Alfredo Olivera and his accomplice,Flavio Miranda,we never had to wait more than 30 seconds for any
request.In fact,Alfredo saw me looking for the daily Princess newsletter and we realizes we left it in the cabin
he ran to the pursar's desk and retrieved a new one for us!Now that's service.Also my wife is from Peru and
both gents are from Mexico so they would yap about everything.Also kuddos to the maitre 'D who switched us
to a private table after we requested it the night before.Speaking of the dining room,the food was
outstanding.The highlight of the cruise was Friday night when lobster tails and beef wellington were on the
menu.My wife & I also enjoyed rack of lamb,pasta dishes,shrimp,steak and the best prime rib I've had at
sea.Also the bread was baked fresh daily and was scrumptious.I had asked the head waiter for a coconut
cake for our anniversary celebration Saturday night and he did not forget.Breakfast and lunch in the Horizon
Court was fine and the burgers and franks at the pool were also good.
The main production shows in the
Princess Theater were the best shows I've seen at sea,especially Rhythms of the City which was as good or
better than any Vegas show I've seen.Glamour was also very good along with a comedic magician Jeff
Peterson.Dave Heenan was O.K. as the headline comic and comedian/ventriloquist Gary Hunter was very
funny.The Explorer's Lounge is the nicest of the show lounges and the sound and production quality of all the
lounges is excellant.And yes,there were two karaoke nights and I participated in both belting out Elvis' 'All
Shook Up'to a packed crowd the final night. The ports of call were St.Thomas,St.Maarten,and Princess Cays
and we bought very cheap liquer in St.Maarten which I found cheaper than St.Thomas(Baily's for $8.95 for 1
ltr.!)The further you get from the pier,the lower the prices are,so don't be lazy and save by walking a bit
further.Sapphire Beach in St.Thomas is less crowded than Megans Bay.Orient Beach in St.Maarten was nicer
than I thought it would be,though the people on the clothing optional side probably looked better with their
clothes on!The only cloudy day we had was at the private island of Princess Cays on Saturday.That was O.K.
though,my wife and I had enough sun by then.
We rented a wave runner for two and since we hadn't eaten in
almost 45 minutes,we stuffed our faces at the buffet which included burgers,hot
dogs,ribs,chicken,sausages,corn on the cob,fruit and desserts.I had originally told myself I would limit my
caloric intake to no more than 10,000 a day but sometimes I might have exceeded it. The ship is big but never
feels crowded with it's 22 bars,lounges and restaurants.Some of the older folks complained the Grand was too
big.I can't understand why anybody would book a cruise on the second largest cruise ship in the world,then
complain it's too big when they get on it.All the public places are on 3 decks(5-7),so we found it easy. Our
butler Linda came by every late afternoon with appetizers and the menu for that evening.It was a nice
treat.She also booked our excursions instead of you having to wait and do it yourself.The mini-suite we had
was great and we loved our balcony and now I don't think I could ever cruise again without a verandah!Just
don't book cabin E726 on the Grand-it's noisy and squeaky and tends to have more motion than mid-ship.One
good point though:we were one of the few(very few)balconies that had a roof or cover so you had some
privacy.So if motion doesn't bother you,nor noises from the lounge below(till about 11:45PM)or squeaking
noises,but you want a private balcony,then book E720-728 on the Grand Princess.
Name: Kathie Edwards
Email: teamjags@email.msn.com
Age: 53
Occupation: Banking
NumberOfCruises: 14
TravelAgent: No
Ship: Princess-Grand
SailingDate: 4/30/00
Itinerary: St. Thomas/St. Maarten/Princess Cays
Cabin: E228
FoodDiningRoom: 97
CruiseDirector: 65
CabinComfort: 95
FoodRoomService:
CruiseStaff: 65
CabinAmenities: 95
FoodLidoDeck: 95
DiningRoomService: 98
CabinQuietness: 98
FoodMidnightBuffets:
CabinSteward: 100
ShoreExcVariety: 95
FoodVariety: 95
DeckService:
ShoreExcValue: 90
GoodForHoneymoon: 98
CasinoStaff: 97
PrivateIsland: 98
GoodForFamilies: 98
LoungeService: 96
TenderService: 98
GoodForSeniors: 96
BeautySalonStaff:
EntertainmentLounges: 98
WheelchairAccess: 96
ExerciseFacilities:
EntertShowLounge: 98
OverallPortsofCall: 96
BeautySalon:
EntertainmentPoolside: 75
CruiseActivities: 90
Casino: 95
AirSeaProgram:
MedicalFacilities:
ShipCleanliness: 100
EmbarkDisembark: 98
DiscoNightclubs: 94
DeckSpace: 99
Stabilization: 99
ShopsOnBoard: 86
SpaceRatio: 99
OverallCruiseValue: 97
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Date: 14 May 2000
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Embarkation was very smooth. Princess does a very good job of this and you would not realize you were with
2,600 people. The only problem was there were several of us in the waiting area lined up when they took
down the barriers for those late comers and no one controlled them as they pushed their way up to the front
of the lines to where they could slip in between those of us that had gotten to the port earlier. I am sure these
people drive the same way. I think there should have been better control of these people who obviously have
no manners of their own.
The ship is beautiful and very clean. There were precious few times we felt crowded. I only encountered one
person that was rude and he was a young man in the video game area. Other than that all of the staff we
encountered were very helpful, friendly, pleasant and courteous. The Cabin Steward, Randy, was one of the
best I have ever had on my 14 cruises.
Speaking of the cabin. I was surprised to find it slightly smaller than most cruise lines we have been on. The
closet space is very inadequate and the shower area is one of those corner deals like you find on the older
ships. I was surprised at that. Even the older ships have much bigger closet space. All men must have
designed the closets.
The food was second only to Celebrity Cruise Lines. The only problem I had was their "24 hour" Horizon Court
isn't quite what that sounds like. I think the "Bristro" part needs to open at 6:00pm rather than 7:30p.m. It
would close with the exception of salads from 4:00pm-7:30pm then it would also close at 4:00a.m. and only
serve rolls until 6:00a.m. when the hot breakfast came out. I just thought 24 hour meant full meals 24 hours.
It's not that we did not have enough to eat, we did but there were times in the diningroom we did not like the
menu and we like early seating so we would have to wait until 7:30p.m. Then one morning I got up early
(migraine headache) and would liked something more to put in my stomach to help with the head. The food
sometimes was a little exotic in the diningroom as well. Frogs legs is not my cup of tea. Other than that the
food was good and so was service. I heard quite a lot of complaining about paying for the ice cream. I also
think that is a little petty. Not one other cruise line I have been on charges for ice cream. The Pizza area and
the hot dot/hamburger area were also very good. The pizza is not dominoes but OK.
We had been to St. Thomas before but never into Charlotte Amalie. I would tell you, you can buy the same
thing, probably cheaper in a nicer area if you just shop at Haver Sight Mall right where the ship docks.
Charlotte Amalie is not a pretty sight. We shopped better at the Mall. We also took the tour of St. John which is
nothing more than looking at one beach after another all the way. They are beautiful beaches but after a while
a beach is a beach is a beach. The tender ride is about 45 minutes long to get over there.
St. Maarten we like much better than St. Thomas. The shopping is actually better there. The people will bargin
with you and the selection is much better. We visited both the French and Dutch side. If you don't have a taxi
full it can get pricey. We paid 15.00 per couple since we did not want to wait going to Marigot and then
another $15.00 back.
Princes Cays is very nice. We, unfortunately, had very over cast skies but it is a beautiful little island and
Princess has done a very nice job with it. Again, they did a wonderful job of the tender service back and forth
and it was a nice day. The BBQ food was not the best in the world but not one cruise I have been on has it
been great so nothing against Princess there.
Disembarkation was very orderly and well done. It is done by Airline people and then by deck. Some other
special things sprinkled in there but we were off the ship by 9:00a.m. which is real good. Parking is also very
good. Right there at the Princess terminal. A real short walk. Very nice.
Would I take another Princess cruise? Yes. It was good. We do prefer Celebrity, they are a step above on
servie and food quality but this was good and we would not hesitate to sail with Princess again.
Name: Tom & Mary Milano
Email: tmilano@n-jcenter.com
Age: 72
Occupation: Retired Restauranteur
NumberOfCruises: 16
TravelAgent: No
Ship: Princess-Grand
SailingDate: May 7, 2000
Itinerary: Eastern Caribbean
Cabin: E#518
FoodDiningRoom: 95
CruiseDirector: 90
CabinComfort: 85
FoodRoomService: 95
CruiseStaff: 93
CabinAmenities: 85
FoodLidoDeck: 88
DiningRoomService: 90
CabinQuietness: 99
FoodMidnightBuffets:
CabinSteward: 100
ShoreExcVariety:
FoodVariety: 85
DeckService: 85
ShoreExcValue:
GoodForHoneymoon: 85
CasinoStaff:
PrivateIsland: 75
GoodForFamilies: 80
LoungeService: 90
TenderService: 75
GoodForSeniors: 75
BeautySalonStaff:
EntertainmentLounges: 95
WheelchairAccess:
ExerciseFacilities:
EntertShowLounge: 90
OverallPortsofCall: 88
BeautySalon:
EntertainmentPoolside: 80
CruiseActivities: 85
Casino:
AirSeaProgram:
MedicalFacilities:
ShipCleanliness: 90
EmbarkDisembark: 100
DiscoNightclubs: 90
DeckSpace: 80
Stabilization: 95
ShopsOnBoard: 75
SpaceRatio: 83
OverallCruiseValue: 85
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Date: 20 May 2000
Time: 11:10:04
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Tom & Mary Milano Grand Princess-Eastern Caribbean May 7, 2000
Mary & I live in New Smyrna Beach, Florida. Because of a decision we made some years ago, to never board
an airplane unless it was absolutely necessary, we restrict our cruising itinerary to the ships that leave from
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami. The restrictive itineraries are not a problem for us because we truly enjoy the
Caribbean and on every cruise we find new ways to make them interesting and exciting.
This cruise aboard the Grand Princess was our 16th cruise, (Honeymoons, as we refer to them), in the last
four years. It was also our 32nd anniversary which made it very special and although we will be telling you of
a number of negatives, we still had a wonderful cruise.
First, we would like to repeat what we have said in our past reviews. We are writing this review from our
perspective which might be very different from yours. We all have different thoughts about what is pleasing
and what is not pleasing. What strikes our eye and we think is beautiful, you may pass without a second
glance. The very things that Mary & I find interesting and exciting, you might consider boring and what we
consider boring might be the very reason you booked your particular cruise. You may not agree with any or
all that we say, and that is alright, because we all have a different viewpoint. Ken Stutt, on his page ‘The
Wheelhouse,' has a great article pertaining to reading reviews entitled, "Don't Let the Reviews Scare You."
We suggest you read this article because it says everything that needs to be said about reading reviews.
Mary & I would like to borrow that title and say to you, "Please Don't Let Our Review Scare You," because it is
written from our perspective which might be completely different than yours.
This has been a very difficult review to write because much of what we say is the complete opposite of what
has been said in the many GP reviews we have read. 95% of the reviews were very positive and spoke
glowingly of the ship. Although we like to and try to judge each cruise on it's individual merits, sometimes it is
very hard if not impossible, not to make comparisons with former cruises, especially when one has sailed on
another ship of the same line within a matter of months. If you are one of the many admirers of the Grand
Princess, you will probably disagree with a number of our observations, but that doesn't mean either of us is
right or wrong, it just means we view things in a different way.
Arrival At The Terminal: We arrived by car at the Ft. Lauderdale terminal, left off our luggage and parked our
car in the very convenient parking garage. We entered the terminal at 11:40, had our documents checked
and were ushered aboard at 12:o'clock. As you no doubt have read in many reviews, Princess is by far the
best at embarkation and disembarkation. They have it down to a science.
We entered the ship on the fifth deck and was greeted by a member of the crew. Instead of him leading us to
the elevator directly ahead in the foyer, he told us to follow the people that were walking down the hallway to
the left. We followed a large group of people along a wide hallway that had paintings displayed on easels and
also covering the walls on both sides. We walked almost halfway through the ship to the central elevator
shaft, with paintings displayed every step of the way. If they wanted us to know they were going to have an art
auction, they certainly made their point. This we thought was rather tacky, and it most certainly did not leave
us with a very good impression as we started our cruise.
Our Cabin: E 518 Obstructed View: We had booked an inside on the Aloha deck and were upgraded five
categories to E 518 on the Emerald deck, which was a outside cabin with an obstructed view. As we entered
the cabin, we were surprised to see two upper berths in a closed position folded against the wall. We hadn't
realized it was a Quad cabin. I always have a brochure of the cruise that we are taking and make a pretty
careful study of our accommodations. But when we got our tickets, for some reason, I didn't take notice to the
small red dot inside the cabin picture which designated it as a Quad. If I had, I would have called my agent
and had him ask to have our cabin changed. Make sure you check the symbols on the bottom of the page to
see if they apply to your cabin. Sometimes they are so small it is difficult to read them. I now keep a
magnifying glass on my desk, just for that purpose The upper beds which were folded against the wall jutted
out from the wall some 12 to 14 inches. We had to be careful not to bang our heads when we got out of bed.
Mary thumped her head a couple of times before she got the knack of bending down as she got up. .
The cabin decor was very bland and the closet and drawer space was limited. The closet was stocked with a
number of wood hangers and two terry cloth bathrobes. The bathroom was smaller than usual with very
limited storage space. But surprisingly, the shower was a little larger than usual. There was a hair dryer just
above the phone on the desk and a refrigerator off to the side. It was a true refrigerator and not a mini bar. If
you have children, it would be convenient and cost saving to stock it with soda. The TV had a number of
channels, including four music channels that gave us a good choice of music. Even though the cabin was just
above the activity deck, it was exceptionally quiet.
Our cabin stewardess was the absolute perfect cabin attendant. She had the unusual name of Blessie. We
only saw her about four times during the entire trip but she kept our room immaculate and took care of our
every need. If we needed something to be done, we would leave her a note and it would be taken care of.
She was a cute little Filipino girl who looked like she was in her twenties. We found out later Blessie was 44
and had two grown boys. It was a pleasure to leave her a generous tip.
Checking Table Arrangements & Tour of the Ship: As soon as we took care of necessities, we went to see the
person in charge of table arrangements. Being he was located one deck below us we headed toward the
central elevator shaft to walk down the stairway. That is when we realized there was no stairwells at the
central elevators. We soon found out there were only two stairwells on the entire ship. Either completely aft or
completely forward. It didn't make any sense that we had to stand and wait for an elevator to descend one
floor.
We located the Asst. Maitre`di in charge and he told us he could tell us our table assignment but only the
head Maitre`di could make any changes. It was our 32nd anniversary and we had requested a table for two
but he told us there were no tables for two on the GP. I asked when could I see the Head Maitre`di and he
told us we could see him at 6 o'clock just before the first dinner seating. Having been in the restaurant
business, I knew it would be difficult for the Maitre`di to change our table assignment while taking care of the
first seating. I thought it would be a good idea to make a reservation for our first dinner at the Painted
Dessert. In this way we would have a better chance of the Maitre`de accommodating us, by giving him an
extra day to make the changes. We then went to the Horizon Court for lunch.
We suggest that you check your table arrangements as soon as it's possible. If they need to be changed, the
earlier you see the Maitre`de the better chance you will have of getting the arrangements you want.
The Horizon Court: We went to the Horizon court for lunch and as we looked around the room, that old
bugaboo, making comparisons, caught up with us. We were looking forward to the Horizon Court area
because we enjoyed it so much when we cruised the Sea Princess. Not only was the Horizon Court on the
Sea Princess the most beautiful lunch area of any ship we cruised on, but also at night it was converted into a
bistro with a large circular dance floor. After dinner, a very talented combo would play dance music till the
wee hours of the morning. None of the above was to be found. There was no dance area and no music in the
evening. This was very disappointing. In our opinion, there is nothing outstanding about this room.
They had an odd way for the guests to chose their breakfast and lunch items. They didn't have one line but a
number of lines. You were handed a large oval plate instead of a tray and silverware and you could go to
whatever food counter that had the items you wanted. There was 7 or 8 different counters. After they got
their plate they would take off in all different directions. People would zig and zag all over the place. For the
first three or four days it was very confusing, but then we kind of got the hang of things and we learned when
to zig and when to zag.
We found the food and the selection very good. They had a very good variety of hot and cold dishes that
were tastefully presented and a varied assortment of pastries and cakes that were also very good. There was
a very nice open lunch area in the aft section of the Horizon overlooking a small pool. While having lunch, it
was a very pleasant sight to look out at the blue water being churned up by the two huge propellers. We later
read in the ships papers that each propeller weighed 40 tons. This is a very nice area to relax and enjoy your
lunch. When we finished lunch we headed toward the Atrium area, which we so admired aboard the Sea
Princess.
The Atrium Area of the Grand: This paragraph will be more readily understood and have significant meaning
to those readers who have sailed on both the Grand and either the Sun, Dawn or Sea Princess. After sailing
on the Sea Princess and reading the many positive reviews of the Grand, we had very high expectations. We
had sailed on the Sea Princess this past November and were overwhelmed with the beauty of the ship,
especially the two atrium areas, with their spectacular floating stairways, the outside elevators and the way
these areas were used as activity centers. We expected that when Princess came up with the design of the
new, largest ship in the world, (at that time) they would expand on the beauty of the atriums on the Sea
Princess and make them even larger and more spectacular on the GP, but they didn't do that. With the GP
having almost half again as much tonnage as the Sea Princess, and carrying 650 more passengers, they
chose to design the Grand with one atrium instead of two, and the one atrium on the GP being much smaller
than either of the atriums on the Sea Princess. That doesn't make any sense. One would expect that being
this ship was going to be the largest ship in the world and the talk of the industry, that Princess would make
every effort to have its design surpass any of the other ships in their fleet. One would think they would have a
ship designed that would leave their guests breathless. Just the opposite happened. They designed the GP
with only one atrium, which is also smaller than either atrium on the SP. In actuality, the atrium is relatively
drab and not very well lighted and very unspectacular. And for some reason which we don't understand, they
enclosed the exterior walls of the two outside elevators with very dark glass, that we could hardly see out of.
We think they really missed the boat. In our opinion, the Sea Princess is much more beautiful then the Grand
in every aspect of design, workmanship and in overall atmosphere. If one has never sailed on The Sea, Sun,
or Dawn or RC's Voyager, I can see why they may rave about the Grand. But if they have sailed any of her
sister ships, the GP pales in comparison. And compared to the Voyager, it's no contest. Of course, that is our
opinion.
We took a quick tour of the ship and went back to our cabin. Our luggage had arrived. We unpacked, took a
short nap, then got dressed and headed to see the head Maitre`di.
Checking With the Maitre`di: On our way to the check our table arrangements, we stopped by and to say
hello to an old friend of some 35 years, Bill Wilson, who was also booked on this cruise. I've known Bill during
the good times and the bad times. He has made a huge difference in my life. He introduced us to six of his
friends and we then spent a pleasant hour talking about old times.
At six o'clock we scooted down to the Michelangelo dining room to meet the head Maitre`de, Nicola Furlan. I
told him we were celebrating our 32nd anniversary and would appreciate if he could arrange for us to have a
table for two. As he was looking at his charts, I told him I realized how difficult it would be to change table
arrangements at the last moment and we had made reservations at the Painted Dessert for this evening so
he could have extra time if needed. As I was talking to him I shook his hand and placed a Hamilton in his
palm. He smiled graciously and said he would send conformation of our new table assignment to our cabin.
We felt much better knowing we were now going to have a table for two. We then went on to the Painted
Dessert restaurant to have our first dinner aboard the GP.
The Painted Dessert Alternative Restaurant: We were looking forward to a intimate, romantic dinner setting in
the Painted Dessert. The room was attractively decorated, with a small dance floor in the center and they
featured David Pritchett, a country guitar player. Even with all of this, the room was not conducive to fine
dining. The location of the restaurant is just before you enter the Princess theater. While your having dinner,
the people attending the showroom have to walk right through the restaurant to get to the theater. Yes, you
have read it correctly. I know it's hard to believe but in order to get to the right side of the theater, the
passengers have to walk right through the area where your dining, then walk over the dance floor on the way
to the theater. Can you imagine being at a table, enjoying a romantic interlude with your wife, when all of a
sudden a steady stream of hundreds of people come passing by your table. We felt like we were having
dinner in the middle of ‘Times Square.' If someone told us this happened to them, we wouldn't believe it.
It's unfortunate that the designers of this ship didn't allot a private space for this restaurant, because the food
was excellent and was presented in a very appealing way. The servers were dressed in authentic Mexican
attire and were very efficient. But all the good points were soon forgotten by the total distraction of the mass
of people that passed our table on the way to the show. We racked our brain, but we can't think of another
cruise ship that has this sort of dining arrangement. This room was never even half filled. I wonder why?
If you like very good southwestern food and you don't care to much about the surroundings, you will like the
Painted Dessert. If you like everything that goes along with fine dining, The Painted Dessert is not the place
for you!
Wheelhouse Lounge: After dinner we went to the Wheelhouse lounge, one of our favorite lounges at sea, to
have drinks and dance a bit before the show. It is a delightful room. The decor is very much old world. Deep
mahogany panels are used as back drops for pictures of sailing vessels and prominently displayed models of
older cruise ships are displayed in various places. The seating is also very nice. It consists of groupings of
richly upholstered love seats, the kind of intimate setting Mary & I like. A husband and wife duo, Steed &
Steed, who played guitar and keyboard, played the kind of music we enjoy dancing to. Their repertoire
consisted of songs like, Embraceable You, The Shadow of Your Smile, Unforgettable, Stardust. All those
great tunes from yesteryear that tell our loved ones of our feelings in beautiful lyrics, much better than we
can in words. What a wonderful setting to start the celebration of our Anniversary. To be able to hold Mary
tightly in my arms as we danced and as we listened to the beautiful words of those grand old melodies.
We often wonder if the young people that dance so far apart, going through all sorts of wild gyrations and
never having body contact with there partners, know what their missing. Were willing to bet if these young
people spent one evening dancing with their arms around each other, they would soon discover that its a lot
more fun and they would realize there's a much better way to put their excess energy to use. We know we
might be stirring up a hornets nest with this comment, but it appears to us, when we watch couples that dance
apart, it seems they are saying look at me, whereas when we are watching couples dancing in each others
arms, they seem to be saying look at us. Don't mind us, I think were letting the romanticism of our anniversary
get the best of us.
Later on in the same evening, this lounge featured Jerry Brooks and his show band. They were terrific. There
music had that kind of beat that made your feet tell your head to get up and dance. Jerry was an original
member of the Ink Spots and he sang many of the songs that made that group so popular. He was also a
very personable and warm individual. You could tell he enjoyed every minute he was performing. We made
sure to go to whatever lounge his group was playing.
Sometime ago, Mary & I decided we would spend our later years collecting memories. These past four years
we have experienced a number of special occasions that we have added to our memory collection and
cruising is at the very top of the list. We feel the atmosphere and ambiance of a good cruise ship is one of
the most romantic and intimate settings one can have for spending some real quality time with one's spouse.
We will long remember our evenings spent in the Wheelhouse and will add them to our memory collection. If
you haven't cruised, we heartily encourage you to give it a try.
The Princess Theater and Show: The showroom is beautiful in appearance with good sight lines. There is no
drink service in the theater. If you want a drink you have to get up and get it. When you get back to your seat,
you have a choice of holding your drink in your hand or using the small airplane type tray in the right side
arm rest. Then after you finish, you probably will put your glass under your seat on the floor like most of the
people do. There is no other place to put it. We never cared for this type arrangement. When waiting for the
show to begin, we found it a pleasure to be able to order an after dinner drink. The best example of the way
we think it should be done, is the way they do it in the show rooms aboard Celebrity. They have beautifully
upholstered love seats with a lighted cocktail table to place your drink on. It's a very elegant way of seating.
The entertainment was one of the highlights of the cruise. Princess features more than one act during each
of their shows. Even when it's a production show they usually have two additional acts. The first night the
show opened with Roger Carr singing a medley of songs. Every evening, you will find Roger performing in the
Promenade Lounge, with most every chair filled with his very loyal followers. He has a big voice and had great
stage presence. He was very well received. They then followed with a lengthy production number featuring
two female vocalists and two male vocalists who were excellent. The supporting cast of dancers were a group
of very talented performers.. After the production numbers we were entertained by a comedy magician, Jeff
Peterson. Usually about this time, with this kind of act, I begin to yawn and start to think about how great it's
going to feel to put my head on the pillar, but that didn't happen. He really was funny and he had a great
gimmick. On a tall plat-formed table next to where he was standing, he placed a gold Genie lamp, and lighted
the protruding wick. And every time he told a lie during his performance, even though he might be two or
three feet away, the flame would shoot out some two feet. It was a very funny bit. It was a great first night of
entertainment. As we passed the Wheelhouse on our the way back to our cabin, we heard Jerry Brooks
singing one of his soulful ballads and we took time out to dance a wee bit more before we called it a night.
Except for the stampede we experienced in the Painted Dessert, it was a very enjoyable evening.
Where Do We Go From Here: All of the preceding is what we experienced our first day aboard the Grand. For
the rest of the review we don't intend to continue giving you a blow by blow account of every move. Instead,
to prevent the possibility of you having a total case of boredom, we are going to highlight the Positives and
the Negatives of our cruise and highlight a few areas. Being we told you of quite a few negatives we think it's
time we told you of a very positive experience.
The Da Vinci Dining Room: The GP has three dinning rooms. The Da Vinci, The Michelangelo and The
Botticelli. All are beautiful rooms. Nicolas Furlan the Maitre`de, arranged for us to have a side by side seating
at a round table in a corner of the Da Vinci dining room. It was a very romantic setting in a truly elegant room.
Just what we wanted. Our waiter was Armindo and his assistant was Johan, both from Portugal. They were a
great team. They were very professional and very efficient. They literally couldn't not do enough for us. One
exception to this all-around efficiency was the Maitre`de for our section of the dining room. I think it best I not
mention his name. Every evening before the meal was not to far along, he would come waltzing over to our
table and address us in a few sentences in Italian. Then he would clasp his hands in front of him as if he was
praying. He then would put the fingers of one hand to his lips, like he was going to throw us a kiss and loudly
proclaim, "The Pasta, Mama Mia, Mama Mia ," and then walk slowly away with a big smile on his face. He did
the same exact thing every night and that's all he did. We compensated him the same amount as the service
he rendered, which was nothing.
The quality of the food was a very pleasant surprise, it was excellent. And of course Mary, who loves Pasta,
enjoyed having the extra Pasta course that is served before the main course. We found the desserts to be
very good and the ice cream was noticeably better than the Haagen-Dazs we had at pool-side. Mary's
favorite dessert is a Souffle. It is not a dessert you see on to many menus's. Because of it's tendency to
collapse when completed, very few restaurants even attempt to make it. She had a Chocolate, Hazelnut
Souffle with Zabaglione, that she said was one of the best she has had. We had a number of desserts that
were excellent.
I'd like to tell you of how at dinner I earn some extra credits with Mary. In one short sentence, Mary does
everything for me when we are home. When we cruise I like to reverse the tables a bit and let her know I
appreciate what she does. I have her select the bread or roll she wants and I then butter it for her, making a
big production out of it. I see that she has salt and pepper, and I make sure she has ice in her wine glass, the
way she likes it. At dessert time I put the cream and sugar in her coffee and stir it for her. I even let her taste
my dessert. I know I sound like a wimp, but I have learned that these little things I do for Mary pay huge
dividends, some of which I am not at liberty to tell you. Now on to the entertainment..
Entertainment: The Cruise Director John Cleford did an excellent job. He was a great MC and always had just
the right comment for the occasion. Princess has a great way of programing their performers. Most of them
appear more than once and are so scheduled that everyone regardless if they have an early or late dinner
seating, will have a chance to see all of them. Their choice and quality of the entertainers is by far the best
we have experienced. They do an excellent job. The following is a general listing of the entertainment, with
comments when we think it warrants.
Roger Carr: Roger Carr performs nightly in the Promenade Lounge and is featured in two production shows.
Very polished performer. When he performs in the Promenade Lounge, as on stage, he gets everyone's
attention.
Kathy and James Taylor: They are one of the best performing couples we have ever seen. When they do
there dance routine Kathy Taylor performs like Ginger Rogers, when she sings, she's as good as any of the
top vocalists and then when she unexpectedly breaks out into her comedy routine, she looks like and acts
like she's Lucille Ball. Truly an amazing transition. Her husband James Taylor is the perfect foil for her. Being
of small statue, we were amazed at the lifts he was able do with his wife. If you don't care for entertainment
that's fine, but do yourself a favor and don't miss the Taylors.
Dave Heenan: Mary likes s to laugh and naturally she loves the comedic acts. We sure found a winner in
Dave Heenan. He was hilarious. As we have previously said, Princess uses its entertainers in a completely
different way than most cruise lines. We first saw Dave in Monday nights opening production show. We then
saw him again in Wednesday's Comedy Showcase. Then on Friday we saw him in Comedy Cabaret in the
Explorer lounge. Mind you, normally a stand up comic takes many, many months to put together a 15 minute
routine. This man gave three 40 minute performances and he never repeated himself. In every show he had
completely different material. What made his routine so refreshing was that his nighttime routine was made up
of many things he experienced that day. He brought the house down. Especially when he told some jokes in
New Yorkese and about his experience with the Taylors when they went to the clothing optional, Orient
Beach. He's a very funny man, don't miss him.
Comedian John Paton: Very, very good. A great style of delivery and great material
The Macaggis; Performed some unbelievable feats of body balancing. Every bone in my body ached as I
watched them. Very good act.
Jeff Peterson: We reviewed him earlier.
Chris Bliss: Off beat comedian that had the most unusual finish to his act that we have ever seen. After telling
jokes for forty minutes he proceed to take four tennis balls from a box and juggled them in rhythm to the beat
of a pop rock song. It doesn't sound like much, but I guarantee you that you have never seen a juggling act
like this in all your life. The juggling part of his act was also featured in the farewell show.
Lounges: The seventh deck is the activity deck of the Grand. You leave the Princess theater heading aft and
you walk through the Painted Desert Restaurant, entering the atrium area, past the Promenade lounge to the
Wheelhouse. Past the Wheelhouse you will find The Explorers lounge, then Sabatini's Tratoria, the
Photographers area, then on to the Vista Lounge, the furthest point aft of the ship. We will now tell you a little
bit about each lounge.
The Wheelhouse: I think we have already given you a pretty good description of this lounge. As we said it's
our favorite lounge and we enjoyed every minute we spent there.
The Explorer Lounge: This lounge is supposed to give you the feeling your on Safari. The pictures on the
walls are of a various wild animals. They have a variety of acts that appear here and it's a very popular and
active spot. We kind of think they might have gone a wee bit to far in the way they have their beverage
servers dressed. To compliment the Safari theme, the men and girl servers are dressed in Khaki knee length
shorts, quite heavy Khaki bush jackets, pith helmets to match and shoes that look like they would be more
suited to Mountain climbing. That's a lot of clothing to be carrying around when your rushing around to take
last minute drink orders. They also held the art auctions in this lounge. It seemed like they had an art auction
every other day. This is also where we picked up our tender tickets and where we waited until our color was
called to disembark.
The Vista Lounge: This actually is another show room. It's a very attractive room that is fully equipped to
handle most any kind of entertainment. Besides the normal single acts that perform here, they occasionally
feature a production show. They also use this room for Bingo and held the Captains party here. It's a very
versatile setting.
Skywalkers Nightclub: We never went there to dance,. (As you well know by now, it's not our kind of music),
but we did go up during the day to see what it looked like. It is truly a spectacular setting and we could easily
see why this could be the spot for those who like to do that other kind of dancing. It was so high up we
thought we might need oxygen.
Sabatini's Tratoria: Because of our choosing the late dinner seating, the last night of a cruise has always
been a bit hectic and uncomfortable. Having to get packed and having to have our luggage in the hallway by
12 o'clock limited our after dinner time. We think we might have found a way around this dilemma. On
Tuesday we went to the business desk where you have to make your reservations for both alternative
restaurants and we made arrangements to have a table for two at Sabatini's at 7 o'clock on Saturday, the last
day of our cruise.. By doing so we were able to catch the early show after dinner and still have plenty of time
to visit a lounge and get back to the cabin to do any additional packing. It worked like a charm. I can't say as
much for Sabatini's.
We didn't feel that the room was properly set for fine dining. The first thing we noticed was the lack of table
clothes. It's pretty difficult to create a fine dining atmosphere with place mats on the tables. Also, the iron
chairs were a stark contrast to the plush cushioned settees
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